Comments on: Worship Mythbusters: dispelling popular notions that get in the way of authentic worship [version 1.1] http://www.richkirkpatrick.com/rich_kirkpatricks_weblog/2008/01/worship-mythbus.html A conversation on faith & culture for creatives, leaders & influencers Wed, 17 Mar 2010 16:00:37 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Joshua (約書亞) http://www.richkirkpatrick.com/rich_kirkpatricks_weblog/2008/01/worship-mythbus.html/comment-page-1/#comment-1337 Joshua (約書亞) Sat, 23 Feb 2008 14:57:27 +0000 http://richkirkpatrick.com/rich_kirkpatricks_weblog/2008/01/worship-mythbusters-dispelling-popular-notions-that-get-in-the-way-of-authentic-worship-version-11/ #comment-1337 "Worship is a lifestyle. Better said, 'Worship is something special, not everything I do.'" Question #1: Is "Worship is a lifestyle." the myth? Question #2: Is "Worship is something special, not everything I do." also the myth, just stated in a different way? Or is it the truth of the myth? Or...? I'm a little confused. “Worship is a lifestyle. Better said, ‘Worship is something special, not everything I do.’”

Question #1: Is “Worship is a lifestyle.” the myth?

Question #2: Is “Worship is something special, not everything I do.” also the myth, just stated in a different way? Or is it the truth of the myth? Or…?

I’m a little confused.

]]> By: Joshua (約書亞) http://www.richkirkpatrick.com/rich_kirkpatricks_weblog/2008/01/worship-mythbus.html/comment-page-1/#comment-1336 Joshua (約書亞) Sat, 23 Feb 2008 14:54:30 +0000 http://richkirkpatrick.com/rich_kirkpatricks_weblog/2008/01/worship-mythbusters-dispelling-popular-notions-that-get-in-the-way-of-authentic-worship-version-11/ #comment-1336 Our Father in Heaven... the One who opens doors that can never be closed, and closes doors that can never be opened again... Holy One... Beautiful One... We pray that you will help us love You more each and every day, especially today. We pray that you will help us love each other more and more. God, please help us to express ourselves to You in full freedom and peace, in spirit and in truth. Please be with brother Peter Park. Help him with his jealousy. And help him realize he is free... where the Spirit of the Lord is... Thank You so much for your love, and what You've done in our lives. Please continue to turn your smiling face upon us, blessing us with your love and peace and guidance. God, please bless us with an extra measure of understanding as we try to work through these tough ideas, "myths", and all. In Jesus name we pray. Our Father in Heaven… the One who opens doors that can never be closed, and closes doors that can never be opened again… Holy One… Beautiful One…

We pray that you will help us love You more each and every day, especially today. We pray that you will help us love each other more and more.

God, please help us to express ourselves to You in full freedom and peace, in spirit and in truth.

Please be with brother Peter Park. Help him with his jealousy. And help him realize he is free… where the Spirit of the Lord is…

Thank You so much for your love, and what You’ve done in our lives. Please continue to turn your smiling face upon us, blessing us with your love and peace and guidance.

God, please bless us with an extra measure of understanding as we try to work through these tough ideas, “myths”, and all.

In Jesus name we pray.

]]> By: Peter Park http://www.richkirkpatrick.com/rich_kirkpatricks_weblog/2008/01/worship-mythbus.html/comment-page-1/#comment-1335 Peter Park Fri, 18 Jan 2008 05:42:00 +0000 http://richkirkpatrick.com/rich_kirkpatricks_weblog/2008/01/worship-mythbusters-dispelling-popular-notions-that-get-in-the-way-of-authentic-worship-version-11/ #comment-1335 I am jealous of those people who are express worship freer than I do. I feel like I hold back. Please pray for me. I am jealous of those people who are express worship freer than I do. I feel like I hold back. Please pray for me.

]]> By: Mud Puppy http://www.richkirkpatrick.com/rich_kirkpatricks_weblog/2008/01/worship-mythbus.html/comment-page-1/#comment-1334 Mud Puppy Thu, 17 Jan 2008 11:37:19 +0000 http://richkirkpatrick.com/rich_kirkpatricks_weblog/2008/01/worship-mythbusters-dispelling-popular-notions-that-get-in-the-way-of-authentic-worship-version-11/ #comment-1334 Just ran across your blog (finally, after seeing your name all over the blog universe!). Welcome to my blogroll and daily RSS read! :) Just ran across your blog (finally, after seeing your name all over the blog universe!).

Welcome to my blogroll and daily RSS read!

:)

]]> By: Rich Kirkpatrick http://www.richkirkpatrick.com/rich_kirkpatricks_weblog/2008/01/worship-mythbus.html/comment-page-1/#comment-1333 Rich Kirkpatrick Thu, 17 Jan 2008 09:26:00 +0000 http://richkirkpatrick.com/rich_kirkpatricks_weblog/2008/01/worship-mythbusters-dispelling-popular-notions-that-get-in-the-way-of-authentic-worship-version-11/ #comment-1333 Pete..AMEN...it should also make us think. Worship should shape our thinking, as well as our feelings--hand in hand. I am saving that argument for my 2.0 list! Pete..AMEN…it should also make us think. Worship should shape our thinking, as well as our feelings–hand in hand. I am saving that argument for my 2.0 list!

]]> By: jeremy bouma http://www.richkirkpatrick.com/rich_kirkpatricks_weblog/2008/01/worship-mythbus.html/comment-page-1/#comment-1332 jeremy bouma Thu, 17 Jan 2008 07:29:14 +0000 http://richkirkpatrick.com/rich_kirkpatricks_weblog/2008/01/worship-mythbusters-dispelling-popular-notions-that-get-in-the-way-of-authentic-worship-version-11/ #comment-1332 I like what you're saying here, Rich! I like that you say worship should cost us something, is linked with music, is inherently emotional (or engages our emotions), and that I have a part to play in worship even as God is the 'object' to which my emotional offering is directed. good stuff...great blog :) -jeremy I like what you’re saying here, Rich! I like that you say worship should cost us something, is linked with music, is inherently emotional (or engages our emotions), and that I have a part to play in worship even as God is the ‘object’ to which my emotional offering is directed.

good stuff…great blog :)
-jeremy

]]> By: Pistol Pete http://www.richkirkpatrick.com/rich_kirkpatricks_weblog/2008/01/worship-mythbus.html/comment-page-1/#comment-1331 Pistol Pete Thu, 17 Jan 2008 04:24:12 +0000 http://richkirkpatrick.com/rich_kirkpatricks_weblog/2008/01/worship-mythbusters-dispelling-popular-notions-that-get-in-the-way-of-authentic-worship-version-11/ #comment-1331 I would only add to your final point that worship should make us think as well as feel. Though probably not good exegesis, ometimes I think of this as worship in "spirit" (feeling) and "truth" (thinking). Authentic worship includes both. I would only add to your final point that worship should make us think as well as feel. Though probably not good exegesis, ometimes I think of this as worship in “spirit” (feeling) and “truth” (thinking). Authentic worship includes both.

]]> By: David http://www.richkirkpatrick.com/rich_kirkpatricks_weblog/2008/01/worship-mythbus.html/comment-page-1/#comment-1330 David Wed, 16 Jan 2008 13:45:52 +0000 http://richkirkpatrick.com/rich_kirkpatricks_weblog/2008/01/worship-mythbusters-dispelling-popular-notions-that-get-in-the-way-of-authentic-worship-version-11/ #comment-1330 Rich, I've been a lurker here for some time and must say that I enjoy processing your thoughts. This article has really solidified since the first draft and presents some great ideas to consider. The concepts of worship and music and the way they are treated in the church has been on my mind so much lately. Our church has been forced to deal with these issues you mention and as I have become more involved with the leadership, I have become more concerned with these "trite mottos" which are propagated by the popular christian media. I have spent much time thinking about worship and music and their relationship to each other. I agree that music is such an important act of worship and that, while in this day and age, singing in public is considered strange unless you are a professional, I believe that we were created to sing praises to and about our God. That being said, I also think that we tend to focus on music too much and end up convincing ourselves that worship is music is worship. We tend to not talk about other sacrifices as worship nearly as often as we probably should. Nor do we remind ourselves why we are making those sacrifices. The Bible says that we are to be living sacrifices, holy and pleasing to the Lord. This means we are certainly supposed to sing, but also to continually reaffirm our identity in Chirst which will in turn lead us to love others, to server others, and to be good stewards of the gifts and blessings which God has given us. Thanks so much for your persistence and willingness to tackle some difficult topics in your blog. Rich,

I’ve been a lurker here for some time and must say that I enjoy processing your thoughts.

This article has really solidified since the first draft and presents some great ideas to consider. The concepts of worship and music and the way they are treated in the church has been on my mind so much lately. Our church has been forced to deal with these issues you mention and as I have become more involved with the leadership, I have become more concerned with these “trite mottos” which are propagated by the popular christian media.

I have spent much time thinking about worship and music and their relationship to each other. I agree that music is such an important act of worship and that, while in this day and age, singing in public is considered strange unless you are a professional, I believe that we were created to sing praises to and about our God.

That being said, I also think that we tend to focus on music too much and end up convincing ourselves that worship is music is worship. We tend to not talk about other sacrifices as worship nearly as often as we probably should. Nor do we remind ourselves why we are making those sacrifices. The Bible says that we are to be living sacrifices, holy and pleasing to the Lord. This means we are certainly supposed to sing, but also to continually reaffirm our identity in Chirst which will in turn lead us to love others, to server others, and to be good stewards of the gifts and blessings which God has given us.

Thanks so much for your persistence and willingness to tackle some difficult topics in your blog.

]]> By: Rich Kirkpatrick http://www.richkirkpatrick.com/rich_kirkpatricks_weblog/2008/01/worship-mythbus.html/comment-page-1/#comment-1329 Rich Kirkpatrick Wed, 16 Jan 2008 13:30:00 +0000 http://richkirkpatrick.com/rich_kirkpatricks_weblog/2008/01/worship-mythbusters-dispelling-popular-notions-that-get-in-the-way-of-authentic-worship-version-11/ #comment-1329 Being nicer is OK, just not as fun, right? ;) Being nicer is OK, just not as fun, right? ;)

]]> By: Tyler http://www.richkirkpatrick.com/rich_kirkpatricks_weblog/2008/01/worship-mythbus.html/comment-page-1/#comment-1328 Tyler Wed, 16 Jan 2008 08:31:48 +0000 http://richkirkpatrick.com/rich_kirkpatricks_weblog/2008/01/worship-mythbusters-dispelling-popular-notions-that-get-in-the-way-of-authentic-worship-version-11/ #comment-1328 You seem to be much nicer to hymns on this post compared to the last, but that is fine. I don't see how anyone could really disagree with these. You seem to be much nicer to hymns on this post compared to the last, but that is fine. I don’t see how anyone could really disagree with these.

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